Вести с полей
Своё развитие получила новость про погром на выставке в Манеже, где были повреждены работы Вадима Сидура, известного скульптора-авангардиста. Кто не помнит кто такой Сидур - прочтите по ссылке снизу.
http://philologist.livejournal.com/7764874.html
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%80,_%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC_%D0%90%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
"Полиция передала в суд заявление, где просит признать действия фундаменталистов из "Божьей воли" "мелким хулиганством..."
казалось бы причём тут 214 УК "Вандализм"?
Напомню наиболее подходящие места из состава данного вида преступления:
"порча имущества ... в иных общественных местах... по мотивам политической, идеологической, расовой, национальной или религиозной ненависти или вражды"
Напрашивается, аналогия с нашумевшим панк молебном - от которого физически не пострадал ни один человек и за который была дана знаменитая "двушечка".
Если исходить из принципа соразмерности то сколько должны были просить правоохранительные органы за данное деяние - вопрос к размышлению.
Вот такие вот особенности правоприменения, которые в очередной раз подкидывает нам жизнь.
Сначала относительно спокойные пикеты, потом срывы спектаклей, потом погромы на выставках, а что потом?
Кстатии внизу записи, на сайте Change.org опубликована петиция "о запрете деятельности организации "Божья воля" разжигающую нетерпимость и ненависть в обществе".
И это конечно может быть не наше дело, но вспоминается знаменитая цитата, сказанная Ма́ртинром Нимёллером - одним из самых известных в Германии противников нацизма:
"Когда нацисты пришли за коммунистами,
я молчал,
я же не был коммунистом.
Потом они пришли за социалистами,
я молчал,
я же не был социал-демократом.
Потом они пришли за профсоюзными деятелями,
я молчал,
я же не член профсоюза.
Потом они пришли за евреями,
я молчал,
я же не был евреем.
Когда они пришли за мной,
больше не было никого,
кто бы мог протестовать"
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/07/enteo/
https://www.change.org/p/%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%82-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8C-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%83%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B6%D1%8C%D1%8F-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%89%D1%83%D1%8E-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B2-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5-%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BA-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%BC-%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%B4%D1%8F%D0%BC-%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%89%D1%83%D1%8E-%D1%81%D1%83%D1%89%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%85%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B0?recruiter=238668771&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=des-lg-no_src-reason_msg&fb_ref=Default
Своё развитие получила новость про погром на выставке в Манеже, где были повреждены работы Вадима Сидура, известного скульптора-авангардиста. Кто не помнит кто такой Сидур - прочтите по ссылке снизу.
http://philologist.livejournal.com/7764874.html
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%80,_%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC_%D0%90%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
"Полиция передала в суд заявление, где просит признать действия фундаменталистов из "Божьей воли" "мелким хулиганством..."
казалось бы причём тут 214 УК "Вандализм"?
Напомню наиболее подходящие места из состава данного вида преступления:
"порча имущества ... в иных общественных местах... по мотивам политической, идеологической, расовой, национальной или религиозной ненависти или вражды"
Напрашивается, аналогия с нашумевшим панк молебном - от которого физически не пострадал ни один человек и за который была дана знаменитая "двушечка".
Если исходить из принципа соразмерности то сколько должны были просить правоохранительные органы за данное деяние - вопрос к размышлению.
Вот такие вот особенности правоприменения, которые в очередной раз подкидывает нам жизнь.
Сначала относительно спокойные пикеты, потом срывы спектаклей, потом погромы на выставках, а что потом?
Кстатии внизу записи, на сайте Change.org опубликована петиция "о запрете деятельности организации "Божья воля" разжигающую нетерпимость и ненависть в обществе".
И это конечно может быть не наше дело, но вспоминается знаменитая цитата, сказанная Ма́ртинром Нимёллером - одним из самых известных в Германии противников нацизма:
"Когда нацисты пришли за коммунистами,
я молчал,
я же не был коммунистом.
Потом они пришли за социалистами,
я молчал,
я же не был социал-демократом.
Потом они пришли за профсоюзными деятелями,
я молчал,
я же не член профсоюза.
Потом они пришли за евреями,
я молчал,
я же не был евреем.
Когда они пришли за мной,
больше не было никого,
кто бы мог протестовать"
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/07/enteo/
https://www.change.org/p/%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%82-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8C-%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%83%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B6%D1%8C%D1%8F-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%89%D1%83%D1%8E-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B2-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5-%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BA-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BC-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%BC-%D0%BB%D1%8E%D0%B4%D1%8F%D0%BC-%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%89%D1%83%D1%8E-%D1%81%D1%83%D1%89%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%85%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B0?recruiter=238668771&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=des-lg-no_src-reason_msg&fb_ref=Default
News from the fields
The news about the pogrom at the exhibition in the Manege received its development, where the works of Vadim Sidur, a famous avant-garde sculptor, were damaged. Who does not remember who Siddur is - read the link below.
http://philologist.livejournal.com/7764874.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%80,_%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8 % D0% BC_% D0% 90% D0% B1% D1% 80% D0% B0% D0% BC% D0% BE% D0% B2% D0% B8% D1% 87
"The police submitted a statement to the court asking them to recognize the actions of the fundamentalists of" God's will "as" petty hooliganism ... "
it would seem, where does the 214 CC “Vandalism” have to do with it?
Let me remind you the most suitable places from this crime:
"damage to property ... in other public places ... based on political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity"
This begs the analogy with the sensational punk prayer service - from which not a single person was physically hurt and for which the famous "couple" was given.
If we proceed from the principle of proportionality, then how much law enforcement agencies should have asked for this act is a question for reflection.
These are the features of law enforcement that once again throws us life.
First, relatively calm pickets, then disruption of performances, then pogroms at exhibitions, and then what?
By the way, at the bottom of the record, on the Change.org website, a petition was published "on the prohibition of the activities of the organization of God's will" inciting intolerance and hatred in society. "
And this, of course, may not be our business, but I recall the famous quote made by Martin Niemelller, one of the most famous opponents of Nazism in Germany:
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I was silent,
I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
I was silent,
I was not a Social Democrat.
Then they came for union leaders,
I was silent,
I'm not a union member.
Then they came for the Jews,
I was silent,
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me
there was no one else
who could protest "
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/07/enteo/
https://www.change.org/p/%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0 % BD% D1% 8B% D0% B9-% D0% BA% D0% BE% D0% BC% D0% B8% D1% 82% D0% B5% D1% 82-% D1% 80% D1% 83% D1 % 81% D1% 81% D0% BA% D0% B0% D1% 8F-% D0% BF% D1% 80% D0% B0% D0% B2% D0% BE% D1% 81% D0% BB% D0% B0% D0% B2% D0% BD% D0% B0% D1% 8F-% D1% 86% D0% B5% D1% 80% D0% BA% D0% BE% D0% B2% D1% 8C-% D0% BC% D0% B8% D0% BD% D0% B8% D1% 81% D1% 82% D0% B5% D1% 80% D1% 81% D1% 82% D0% B2% D0% BE-% D0% B2 % D0% BD% D1% 83% D1% 82% D1% 80% D0% B5% D0% BD% D0% BD% D0% B8% D1% 85-% D0% B4% D0% B5% D0% BB- % D0% B7% D0% B0% D0% BF% D1% 80% D0% B5% D1% 82% D0% B8% D1% 82% D1% 8C-% D0% B4% D0% B5% D1% 8F% D1% 82% D0% B5% D0% BB% D1% 8C% D0% BD% D0% BE% D1% 81% D1% 82% D1% 8C-% D0% BE% D1% 80% D0% B3% D0 % B0% D0% BD% D0% B8% D0% B7% D0% B0% D1% 86% D0% B8% D0% B8-% D0% B1% D0% BE% D0% B6% D1% 8C% D1% 8F-% D0% B2% D0% BE% D0% BB% D1% 8F-% D1% 80% D0% B0% D0% B7% D0% B6% D0% B8% D0% B3% D0% B0% D1% 8E% D1% 89% D1% 83% D1% 8E-% D0% BD% D0% B5% D1% 82% D0% B5% D1% 80% D0% BF% D0% B8% D0% BC% D0% BE % D1% 81% D1% 82% D1% 8C-% D0% B8-% D0% BD% D0% B5% D0% BD% D0% B0% D0% B2% D0% B8% D1% 81% D1% 82 % D1% 8C-% D0% B2-% D0% BE% D0% B1% D1% 89% D0% B5% D1% 81% D1% 82% D0% B2% D0% B5-% D0% BD% D0% B5% D0% B3% D0% B0% D1% 82% D0% B8% D 0% B2% D0% BD% D0% BE% D0% B5-% D0% BE% D1% 82% D0% BD% D0% BE% D1% 88% D0% B5% D0% BD% D0% B8% D0 % B5-% D0% BA-% D0% B2% D0% B5% D1% 80% D1% 83% D1% 8E% D1% 89% D0% B8% D0% BC-% D0% BF% D1% 80% D0% B0% D0% B2% D0% BE% D1% 81% D0% BB% D0% B0% D0% B2% D0% BD% D1% 8B% D0% BC-% D0% BB% D1% 8E% D0 % B4% D1% 8F% D0% BC-% D0% B8% D1% 81% D0% BA% D0% B0% D0% B6% D0% B0% D1% 8E% D1% 89% D1% 83% D1% 8E-% D1% 81% D1% 83% D1% 89% D0% BD% D0% BE% D1% 81% D1% 82% D1% 8C-% D1% 85% D1% 80% D0% B8% D1% 81% D1% 82% D0% B8% D0% B0? Recruiter = 238668771 & utm_source = share_petition & utm_medium = facebook & utm_campaign = autopublish & utm_term = des-lg-no_src-reason_msg & fb_ref = Default
The news about the pogrom at the exhibition in the Manege received its development, where the works of Vadim Sidur, a famous avant-garde sculptor, were damaged. Who does not remember who Siddur is - read the link below.
http://philologist.livejournal.com/7764874.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%80,_%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8 % D0% BC_% D0% 90% D0% B1% D1% 80% D0% B0% D0% BC% D0% BE% D0% B2% D0% B8% D1% 87
"The police submitted a statement to the court asking them to recognize the actions of the fundamentalists of" God's will "as" petty hooliganism ... "
it would seem, where does the 214 CC “Vandalism” have to do with it?
Let me remind you the most suitable places from this crime:
"damage to property ... in other public places ... based on political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity"
This begs the analogy with the sensational punk prayer service - from which not a single person was physically hurt and for which the famous "couple" was given.
If we proceed from the principle of proportionality, then how much law enforcement agencies should have asked for this act is a question for reflection.
These are the features of law enforcement that once again throws us life.
First, relatively calm pickets, then disruption of performances, then pogroms at exhibitions, and then what?
By the way, at the bottom of the record, on the Change.org website, a petition was published "on the prohibition of the activities of the organization of God's will" inciting intolerance and hatred in society. "
And this, of course, may not be our business, but I recall the famous quote made by Martin Niemelller, one of the most famous opponents of Nazism in Germany:
"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I was silent,
I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists,
I was silent,
I was not a Social Democrat.
Then they came for union leaders,
I was silent,
I'm not a union member.
Then they came for the Jews,
I was silent,
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me
there was no one else
who could protest "
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/07/enteo/
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